Tuesday, March 27, 2012


 The GOP/TP is now after SNOPES hoping (with lies) it will go the way of ACORN.
My husband Frank, received a FORWARD the other day that had so much Shit From Thee Bull in it,  I had to do some research. During my FACT-FINDING journey, I found something even more disturbing and utterly deplorable (as if the Tea Party movement can't get more shameful) than the so called “Birther Movement”.  But first the forwarded email called:
Birth Certificate (LONG FORM)
Claim:   Barack Obama's birth certificate is a forgery.
Snopes:  FALSE
Example:   [Collected via e-mail, June 2008]
I read that Obama will not release his birth certificate. Have heard rumors it's because he is listed as white.  Or that because he isn't a U.S. born citizen.
(Upon the release of the Long Form Actual Birth Certificate the BIRTHERS still claim it’s a forgery.)
The claims of anachronism stemmed from three elements in the certificate:
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is 'African-American' when the term wasn't even used at that time?
2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".
3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "Kaui Keolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
My husband sent him the Snopes Facts on this bogus (and silly) forward where, of course, Snopes correctly took on these 3 idiotic “points” and proved them FALSE with actual reality checks. Click this link: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp
After sending this link of fact, to the blockhead conservative, (who barely reads any FORWARDS he receives and just hits the old FORWARD AND SEND BUTTON to CIRCULATE the pieces of BS, that his pea-brain agrees with, around to his like-minded buddies) he wrote back this reply.
“Frank, I sent you an email a few months ago about how flawed Snopes is. STOP LIVING YOUR LIFE BASE {sic] OFF WHAT THAT SITE TELLS YOU.”
Now it appears, with the help of the freepers over on the Free Republic Blog http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/*/index  These GOP/TP DESPOTS (who laugh all the way to the bank at their base’s ignorance) are now in the midst of demonizing Snopes as a “LIAR,LIAR PANTS ON FIRE” source to protect their totally fabricated "INFORMATION", that circulates around the Internet via FORWARDS and also the media via the likes of Limbaugh and Fox News, as THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NUTTIN BUT THE TRUTH. WHAT A JOKE! Thinkingblue
CLAIM: Snopes.com is 'owned by a flaming liberal' with a partisan bias.
First off, it's clear that whoever wrote this piece made it up as they went along. Anyone who has spent even a few minutes browsing Snopes.com knows that the website is owned by two people, not one. They are husband and wife David and Barbara Mikkelson of southern California. This is stated on the website and has been common knowledge for quite some time.
Second, the charge of partisanship is laid without evidence. At no time have the Mikkelsons publicly stated a political preference or affiliation, or expressed support for any particular party or candidate.
Moreover, Barbara Mikkelson is a Canadian citizen, and as such cannot vote in U.S. elections or contribute to political campaigns. In a statement to FactCheck.org, David Mikkelson said his "sole involvement in politics" is voting on election day. In 2000 he registered as a Republican, documents provided to FactCheck.org show, and in 2008 Mikkelson didn't declare a party affiliation at all. Says Mikkelson: "I've never joined a party, worked for a campaign, or donated money to a candidate" (source: FactCheck.org).
Anyone who claims proof to the contrary needs to come out with it.
NOTE ON GEORGE SOROS: A later variant of this rumor alleges, without evidence, that Snopes.com is financed by liberal philanthropist and hedge fund tycoon George Soros. This is false. The website is entirely self-supporting through advertising sales.
CLAIM: Snopes.com is 'in the tank' for Obama and 'tells lies' about McCain and Palin.
You'd think it would be easy for someone so blithely asserting that the owners of Snopes.com are "flaming liberals" to offer evidence that they're "in the tank" for Obama and "covering up" for him. None is provided.
As of this writing dozens of forwarded texts pertaining to Barack Obama and his running mate have been analyzed on Snopes.com, each meticulously researched with copious references cited. I have perused them all, not to mention the twenty-odd texts concerning Republican candidates John McCain and Sarah Palin, and find no discernible pattern of bias or deception, nor any evidence of advocacy for or against. To the contrary, I see a consistent effort to provide even-handed analyses of texts which more often than not are themselves dripping with political bias.
That's my assessment, as someone who has investigated the bulk of these rumors himself and can boast a better-than-average familiarity with the subject matter. I invite you to make your own.
CLAIM: TruthorFiction.com is a more reliable source than Snopes.
First off, TruthorFiction.com has condemned this anonymous attack against Snopes.com and, in fact, lauds the site as an "excellent" and "authoritative" resource.
What's ironic about claims to the contrary is that when you compare the contents of the two sites their findings rarely diverge in any substantive way. Shouldn't we therefore conclude that TruthorFiction.com is biased too?
Email text contributed by Elliott F., Oct. 20, 2008:

Subject: Snopes under fire


Snopes under fire

I have suspected some problems with Snopes for some time now, but I have onlycaught them in half-truths. If there is any subjectivity they do an immediate full left rudder.

Truth or fiction.com is the better source for verification, in my opinion.

I have recently discovered that Snopes.com is owned by a flaming liberal and
this man is in the tank for Obama. There are many things they have listed on their site as a hoax and yet you can go to Youtube yourself and find the video of Obama actually saying these things. So you see, you cannot and should not trust Snopes.com.... ever for anything that remotely resembles truth! I don't even trust them to tell me if email chains are hoaxes anymore.

A few conservative speakers on Myspace told me about snopes.com
a few months ago and I took it upon myself to do a little research to find out if it was true. Well, I found out for myself that it is true. This website is backing Obama and is covering up for him. They will say anything that makes him look bad is a hoax and they also tell lies on the other side about McCain and Palin.

Anyway just FYI please don't use Snopes.com anymore for fact checking and
make your friends aware of their political leanings as well. Many people still think Snopes.com is neutral and they can be trusted as factual. We need to make sure everyone is aware that that is a hoax in itself.


As if the BIRTH CERTIFICATE was not enough insult, the conservative ignoramous, still sends Frank another dispicable forward about Bill Crosby. BILL COSBY: I'M TIRED!
GOOD GOD, these assholes never quit. thinkingblue
Frank's response:
Using Bill Cosby in this manner is the reason for the existence of "Snopes". You got some false, utterly ridiculous piece of crap in your email, and because it agreed with your [WARPED] world-view, you took it as the gospel truth. Snopes usually puts that erroneous nonsense where it belongs....into the nearest garbage can!  Snopes makes you very upset because it screws-up what you want to believe. You then find some other piece of crap that demonizes Snopes to the point of comparing it to "Krystainacht" (look that one up if you are curious). It's all very tidy for you now. You get to ignore Snopes!.... hooray!  
Bill Cosby was not involved at all in the words used in this latest false forward of yours.  I knew it was totally false after the first few sentences! The person who sent it around under Mr. Cosby's name should receive some kind of punishment for his slander! The person who contributes to this travesty by sending it around should also be condemned for his behavior and set straight!  I'll now proceed to "set you straight" without using the dreaded Snopes! 
If you want to redeem yourself, you could send Mr. Cosby an email, and apologize.
Here's something directly from Bill Cosby's site:http://billcosby.com/site/2011/09/if-you-got-the-bogus-email-its-time-to-hit-delete.html
Here's something directly from "The Old Jarhead", who actually wrote what is erroneously and maliciously attributed to Mr. Bill Cosby! http://tartanmarine.blogspot.com/2009/02/robert.html
You never give up...do you Don! If you have the opinions and hold the views of "The Old Jarhead" that's fine, but for Christ's sake Don, point to the proper source, and try to have a little integrity!  You can't just forward all the stuff you see that you agree with when it's always proven to be complete lies and fabrications. All the birther stuff you send is silly. All the crap about Obama the Muslim is ridiculous. You can't just turn the world into a vision that suits you by forwarding shit from the bull!
More ignorance (if you can handle any more) from the POLITICHICKS. UGH!

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